Retirement: Finding fulfillment?

Retirement is another thing I knew absolutely nothing about before taking this course, and still don’t feel like I have a firm grasp on. I DO know that words like pension, 401k, and social security have to do with it.

I ALSO know it’s basically defined as a person leaving their job or stopping work permanently. Our culture, and many others, see old age as a new stage or phase of life. For us, I think the general ideal is to stop working and live comfortably and do what you want. However, sitting around doing nothing isn’t the ideal, either.

We read an article in our class by Joel Savishinsky called, The Volunteer and the Saanyasin: Archetypes of Retirement in American and India. In it Savishinsky depicts the different forms of retirement in these two cultures; Americans like to volunteer in their old age, and Indians like to practice religious enlightenment.

Both of these archetypes, he argues, are meant to bring people fulfillment through pursuit in their old age. A saanyasin is a person who severs worldly ties, including relations with other people, and enters isolated meditation in their later years. But this in itself is a pursuit, and a saanyasin still serves as a model for others, which also brings that person fulfillment. Americans often pursue volunteer work, which brings increased ties with others and brings fulfillment through helping others. So while these seem opposed to one another– Americans increasing ties, Indians severing ties– both serve as active pursuits, ways to influence others, and paths to fulfillment. 

This led me to think of my own life after the age of 65, which I hadn’t done before this class. I do feel like I would like pursue the typical ideal of travel, if that can be afforded to me, and maybe taking up another skill like starting a rock band or being a stand up comedian (or maybe knitting. Who knows?). But these are also things I want to pursue now in my life– why put off travel, hobbies, happiness, and fulfillment until my old age? I also don’t think I want to completely stop working, because I feel like I’ll be wanting to do something productive. But hey, maybe that’ll change once I actually reach that point in my life.

Anyway, there are a lot of people who work in their old age (only 10% of Americans can afford to completely retire, after all), and in class we watched this awesome video about a needle factory in Needham, MA, where the average age of the workers is 74. These people all seem to love their job– it gives them something to do, makes them feel needed– things I think we all, no matter our age, can relate to (sometimes on vacations I just have no idea what to do since there’s no structure! And if I’m at work and don’t feel needed? I’ll put half as much effort into my job).

So while I think our culture at large views retirement as a new stage of life, in a lot of ways it doesn’t seem all that different (except there might not be as much pressure to provide for your children, etc). A lot of people keep working until the day they die, and I’m starting to think that’s the way I’d like my life to go. What else am I going to do after I retire?

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A Positive Spin on Dementia

We just finished up a unit on dementia in my class on cross-cultural aging, and I realized that I had never really thought of it before– I had never really even known what dementia was before.

If I had had to describe dementia before this class, I probably would have just said it’s “when old people go crazy.” I didn’t even know it mainly has to do with memory loss.

For those of you wondering, this is the definition according to Google:

“A chronic or persistent disorder of the mental processes caused by brain disease or injury and marked by memory disorders, personality changes, and impaired reasoning.”

I’ve gotten into the whole googling-things-to-see-what-comes-up as a starting point for seeing how we understand certain concepts. So, just like I googled “old people” not too long ago, I decided to google-image dementia. This is what came up:

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What I found especially compelling and saddening were the “quote” images that appeared first:

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A lot of people fear dementia and Alzheimer’s disease– even my mom, at the age of 57, talks about her fear of it sometimes. My friend’s grandmother has it and she talks about how hard it is for her grandmother, how her grandmother knows she can’t remember things and it scares and frustrates her, how her grandmother lost her independence because of her dementia and how that was really hard for her.

But perhaps the fear surrounding dementia doesn’t have to do with forgetting things, but rather the negative social consequences that come with this forgetfulness. 

In class we read a piece titled “On Recognition, Caring, and Dementia,” by anthropologist Janelle S. Taylor, in which she criticizes the stereotypes and stigmas around dementia and puts the disorder in a more positive light. Her own mother has dementia, and she is frustrated by the question nearly everyone asks: “Does she recognize you?” 

This question is a load of BS to Taylor. Why does our culture put so much value in recognition? She suggests that recognition is something Americans greatly value, and when someone cannot recognize us we are insulted, we get hurt– so we use it as a reason to sever ties with that person. “When everyone keeps asking me, ‘Does she recognize you?’ I believe the question really is— or should be— ‘Do you, do we, recognize her? Do we grant her recognition?’”

She goes on: “Not only is it tragic, but it is wrong for a person to forget their close relations, especially family relations”

Taylor then gives examples in which friends and family members distance themselves from someone with dementia. Her mother lost all of her friends but one. Many people living with someone with dementia describe these people as “as good as dead” or “ghosts.” People with dementia therefore experience a “social death;” after all, who wants to socialize with the living dead?

One man said living with his wife who had dementia was like being with the “living dead.” When he wanted to leave the house, he left her tied up to the toilet. 

People are offended when their loved one can’t remember their name, their relationship, what year it is, so they grill them with questions and always correct them by giving them the correct date, the correct name, the correct relationship– and this all just leads to confusion, frustration, anger, and sadness for both parties. Why does it matter so much what year it is now? What’s the point of correcting people with dementia?

We construct our lives out of memories. We place too much value in telling stories about the past, and don’t focus enough on the underlying social benefits of story-telling, of human interaction. 

Taylor pleas for a more open-minded approach to socializing with and caring for those with dementia. She acknowledges her mother had a fairly easy decline into dementia, and that many have it worse, but many people experience dementia in the same way as her mother– at least at one point or another.

If you open your mind and spend less time on specific facts, you might start to realize that even though your mother, your father, or your friend cannot call you by name, they might still recognize you in a different kind of way.

“My mother would certainly fail a pop quiz about my name, but she lights up when she sees me,” Taylor explains. She says later in her piece: 

“Our conversations go nowhere, but it hardly matters what we say…. The exchange itself is the point. Mom and I are playing catch with expressions, including touches, smiles,  and gestures as well as words, lobbing them back and forth to each other in slow easy underhand arcs.”

You don’t need to know someone’s name to appreciate their company and to value them. You don’t even need to know your relationship with them. What matters is that people with dementia still value and want human interaction, and that they make an effort to have some sort of social exchange– just not in the typical way.

Taylor quotes another poignant example:

Even when speech is incoherent and void of linguistic meaning, in face-to-face interaction there is a smooth and appropriate alternating pattern of vocalizing, as well as gesticulating, back and forth. With the utterance of only “Bah,” “Shah,” “Brrrr!” and “Bupalupah,” Abe and Anna were able to communicate without any recourse to intellectual interpretation. There was a fittingness and a meaningful relationship between the rise and fall of their pitch, their pauses, and their postural shifts. … What this example illustrates is Merleau-Ponty’s argument that communication dwells in corporeality or, more specifically, in the body’s capability to gesture. [Kontos 2006:207]

This post is starting to get a bit long, so I’ll wrap it up with one last point: we don’t live enough in the moment, but people with dementia have to. Taylor talks about how she gained a newfound appreciation for living in the moment from her mother. When you can’t discuss memories with a person, you focus on the now, on the interaction– on the blue of the sky and the cuteness of a puppy. You hold hands because it’s nice and you don’t care about social norms anymore. You find happiness in the present because you literally cannot live in the past.

Perhaps if people weren’t so scared of no longer being recognized, or if we didn’t put so much value in social status and relationships with another person, we would be better able to care for those we love when they start to experience dementia. Then maybe people with dementia wouldn’t be abandoned by friends and family. And then maybe there wouldn’t be so much fear concerning dementia, which could probably help a lot of people live a little better in the present.

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Amy Poehler on Aging

So, Amy Poehler is pretty much my idol. Maybe you’ve seen her on SNL, or rockin the Golden Globes with Tina Fey, or as my dream alternate-self, Leslie Knope, on Parks and Rec. Basically, she’s one hilarious gal, so of course I’m reading her new book Yes Please— and! Lo and behold, she has a chapter dedicated to aging.

The chapter is titled “talk to yourself like you’re ninety,” which is something I actually often like to do when I’m stressed (although really I imagine a 60-year-old version of myself talking to the current me and saying things like “It’s okay! Literally no one, except losers, actually ends up caring about the grades they got in college,” or “Don’t worry, when you’re sixty you’ll have some awesomely horrifying stories to tell about working in retail and earning minimum wage!”).

Anyway, Poehler admits at the beginning of the chapter that she is possibly the most middle of middle aged: 43. But she’s already experienced some aspects of aging, and instead of dreading becoming old and complaining about it, she puts a very positive spin on the (hopefully) inevitable process of aging. She says:

“Getting older makes you somewhat invisible. This can be exciting… This can lead to your finding a comfortable couch at a party, or to the realizing that you are at a terrible party and need to leave immediately… You can witness young people embarrassing themselves and get a thrill that it’s not you.”

Basically, it can be pretty awesome that people start paying less attention to you. Poehler says that aging also makes you develop “X-ray vision;” due to having a lot of life experience, you can see through bullsh*t very easily and almost immediately. You find it easier to not take things so personally.

“You get better at knowing what you want and need. You can tell what kind of underwear people are wearing.”

I myself think that’s pretty awesome.

And finally, you become a superhero as you age. This, Poehler argues, makes you great at putting together a good team. You know who you work well with and who brings you inspiration and drive, and you stop caring about what people think of you and you do what you want and chill with whoever you want and have an awesome time.

She ends the chapter with some advice her 90-year-old self gives herself, including “Get to the point please,” “Isn’t dancing fun?” “Kiss every baby and pet every dog,” “Make ‘No’ a complete sentence,” and finally, “That next-door neighbor is too loud; that’s it, I’m calling the cops.” (Somewhat of a tangent, but see what she did there in that last sentence? Using stereotypes as a mechanism for humor??)

This chapter– and this book all around– is very inspirational. I was really, truly surprised to see she included a chapter on getting old. But isn’t that just so cool? I’ve realized this weekend that although I don’t spend much time hanging out with elderly people myself, aging comes up all the time. It’s come up countless times in conversations, it came up in a Broadway show I saw, it came up in this book, it came up in a TV show I was watching. It’s something people are uneasy about, so they make jokes about it. It’s also something a lot of people don’t know a lot about, which is also probably why they make jokes about it.

Aging is everywhere. And how fascinating (and crazy) is it that while the topic comes up all the time in everyday life, I had never imagined what my life would be like past the age of 65 before this semester? My whole life I have viewed my life as working toward goals I hope to eventually accomplish between the ages of 30 and 50. But what happens after I turn 50 and my kids are gone and I might have hit the peak of my career? What am I going to do when I stop working?

All in all though, I’m glad to see it coming up in a memoir-esque book written by a comedian, and I hope that it continues to show up in our media in a positive light. Thanks Amy Poehler!

And yes, please, you should all read her book.

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“Mimosas remind me of old women, for some reason” (or, stereotypes regarding the elderly)

That’s what my friend said when I told her I had had a mimosa (or two) with my meal earlier in the day. I’m not sure why mimosas remind my friend of old women, and neither does my friend, but this is the same friend who told me we would make “good old ladies” when we went to play Bingo together the other week.

In my class on aging we’ve talked a lot about stereotypes regarding aging. There are certainly the negative stereotypes: decline, sickness, poor health, conservatism, not being with the times, etc.. But there are also some positive associations: retirement, spending time with family, humor, and– what I find surprising and somewhat contradictory– happiness.

Like if you google image “old people,” this is what comes up:

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And look at the first suggestion google gives you! “Funny.” And if you scroll right, there’s a “Meme” suggestion. These memes both make fun of old people, like this one (that plays on the stereotype that elderly people don’t understand technology and the image of old women– especially grandmothers– always baking recipes):

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And show a certain reverence for the elderly (while still using humor), like this one:

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But what does it mean for a certain demographic to be used as a form of humor? We had had a discussion about this in class the other day when we watched a video about a man who goes around the country and interviews elderly people, and then sets these interviews to music. This one older woman he was interviewing asked him why he does this, and when he said “Just to get to know people,” she blatantly replied with “Well that’s not very interesting.” And we all laughed.

So why do we find elderly people so funny? Part of me is tempted to go do a bunch of research on our cultural values and practices concerning humor, but keeping in mind this is a blog and I want to finish this post before my class in 20 minutes, I’ll just give my own thoughts.

To me, laughing at an older woman who says “that’s not very interesting” often demonstrates that we are not taking her seriously. How would we respond to someone younger saying the same thing? A powerful businessman? I’d probably see him as pompous and rude, not as charming and adorable.

It’s like laughing at a woman who’s angry just because she’s on her period, or pregnant, or going through menopause– or even if she’s not, turning it into a joke (“What, are you on your period? Hah!). It invalidates what this person is feeling, and the person laughing implies that the person-being-laughed-at’s thoughts aren’t as valuable as the laughing-person’s own. If that makes sense.

Things are often humorous because they don’t match our expectations– so perhaps that’s why an old woman being rude or old women smoking weed (below) is so hilarious. But what does it say about us that we have these expectations and stereotypes in the first place? And what does that do socially to the person being stereotyped?

Anyway, I’ll leave you with this video that’s trending on BuzzFeed right now (content warning for drug use, vulgar language, sexual explicitness), and let you think about why we find old people so gosh darn funny and adorable:

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A Post about this Blog About Aging

(read: why am I doing this?) 

So here’s what this blog’s all about:

I’m taking a class at Brandeis University called Aging in a Cross-Cultural Perspective, taught by Professor Sarah Lamb, and in tandem with this class I’m taking a half-credit, “experiential learning” course about aging. For this in tandem, real-world experiential course, I’ve spent the past 8 weeks doing a program called “Sages and Seekers,” for which I was paired up with someone over the age of 65 to meet and talk with every Wednesday. The course started out with a “speed-dating” session in which all 12 of us student “seekers” (seekers of wisdom, that is) got to talk with each older “sage” for five minutes. Then, we met every week for an hour and a half; the first 10 minutes we would talk with someone who was not our partner, and we spent the rest of the time with our assigned sage. Today was the penultimate session during which each seeker delivered a 5-minute “tribute” to his or her sage in front of everyone, talking about what they learned from all their one-on-one sessions with their sage. Next week will be our last session during which we’ll all have a group discussion about how the class went.

But… my blog actually isn’t about Sages and Seekers. My blog is part of my final project for this experiential learning course, in which we need to be engaging with aging (eng-aging!) in the real world, so I’ll be posting all sorts of (hopefully) fun, interesting things about aging.

Here are possible topics I’d like to post about:
– Certain topics we’ve discussed in my class (like how Americans value independence in old age far more than many other cultures in which multi-generational households are the norm, or how the experience of aging differs for men and for women– ever heard of andropause?, etc.)
– Aging in popular media (I’m thinking about a particular episode of the TV comedy series Parks and Rec here, in which a small local government official decides to have sex education classes for seniors)
– How college-aged students view aging
– Some volunteer work I’ve done at different living facilities for the elderly
– And more!

So before I conclude this introductory post, I’ll leave you with a couple things to ponder:

1) How much have you thought about your post-65 years? (I for one, have not put much thought into this. In fact, I’ve realized through this class that my most long-term goals I’ve made only reach about as far as raising my kids successfully and sending them off to college– but what about after that?)

2) What images, questions, and thoughts come to mind when you think about “getting old?”

And 3) When was the last time “aging” came up in everyday conversation for you? (For me, not counting conversations concerning this class, it was about a week ago when I went to play Bingo with a friend and she commented, “We’re going to make really good old ladies!”)

So, hopefully that gives you some things to think about. Thank you for reading! Hopefully this will turn out better than my study abroad blog (I think I wrote about 4 posts total for that…), but I think the whole this-being-for-a-grade thing will help with that. Until next time!

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